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funny noise when starting car, renault scenic?

whan the ignition is turned on there isa heavy matalic double clunk noise from under what seems the middle of the car, then the odd noise from the rear on driving?? help please...
ed, August 2009
could be engine/gearbox mount underneath the car or exhaust rubber...

jackie boi, August 2009
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