Thanks again Lads, I had a look at the RFI board, the lid and it's motors, the heater and physically checked the wiring for breaks but I did not see anything wrong. It's time to call the engineer as I think it will need a part, probably the RFI board or that heater plate.
Thank you from a very snowy Ireland, we probably could not be any further apart on earth but closer together in enthusiasm
Michael, January 2010